1 00:00:09,509 --> 00:00:07,269 good afternoon and welcome to nasa's 2 00:00:12,070 --> 00:00:09,519 johnson space center for today's mission 3 00:00:14,150 --> 00:00:12,080 management team briefing for the sts-132 4 00:00:15,749 --> 00:00:14,160 flight for the briefing we have leroy 5 00:00:17,670 --> 00:00:15,759 kane who is the chairman of the mission 6 00:00:19,109 --> 00:00:17,680 management team and also the deputy 7 00:00:20,950 --> 00:00:19,119 program manager for the space shuttle 8 00:00:24,230 --> 00:00:20,960 program so we'll open up with comments 9 00:00:25,750 --> 00:00:24,240 from leroy and then take questions 10 00:00:27,349 --> 00:00:25,760 okay thank you kylie 11 00:00:29,910 --> 00:00:27,359 well it's really great to be back in 12 00:00:31,589 --> 00:00:29,920 orbit atlantis and the atlantis crew are 13 00:00:35,270 --> 00:00:31,599 doing very well today 14 00:00:37,350 --> 00:00:35,280 we had just a flawless uh launch 15 00:00:39,670 --> 00:00:37,360 and ascent yesterday from the kennedy 16 00:00:41,590 --> 00:00:39,680 space center and the crew got on orbit 17 00:00:43,750 --> 00:00:41,600 and proceeded into their flight day one 18 00:00:45,510 --> 00:00:43,760 activities 19 00:00:47,029 --> 00:00:45,520 orbiter has been performing 20 00:00:49,510 --> 00:00:47,039 exceptionally well 21 00:00:51,990 --> 00:00:49,520 and and the crew today 22 00:00:54,069 --> 00:00:52,000 was into their normal flight day 2 23 00:00:55,430 --> 00:00:54,079 activities to include 24 00:00:58,950 --> 00:00:55,440 the 25 00:01:01,510 --> 00:00:58,960 system and 26 00:01:03,270 --> 00:01:01,520 their normal preparation for rendezvous 27 00:01:05,030 --> 00:01:03,280 and docking with the international space 28 00:01:07,270 --> 00:01:05,040 station tomorrow so 29 00:01:09,830 --> 00:01:07,280 all of that is is ongoing 30 00:01:12,710 --> 00:01:09,840 and we're looking forward to to being 31 00:01:14,149 --> 00:01:12,720 back at space station tomorrow 32 00:01:15,830 --> 00:01:14,159 in the mission management team today we 33 00:01:18,070 --> 00:01:15,840 had we talked about a couple of items 34 00:01:19,910 --> 00:01:18,080 one of the items has to do with the 35 00:01:21,270 --> 00:01:19,920 inspection system 36 00:01:23,590 --> 00:01:21,280 that we use 37 00:01:25,670 --> 00:01:23,600 to to look at 38 00:01:27,670 --> 00:01:25,680 in this case atlantis thermal protection 39 00:01:32,469 --> 00:01:27,680 system 40 00:01:34,310 --> 00:01:32,479 attach to the orbiter robot arm 41 00:01:36,149 --> 00:01:34,320 the orbiter boom system on the end of 42 00:01:38,710 --> 00:01:36,159 that boom extension 43 00:01:40,710 --> 00:01:38,720 there is a sensor package a suite of 44 00:01:42,789 --> 00:01:40,720 sensors actually 45 00:01:44,069 --> 00:01:42,799 there's a there's a camera a digital 46 00:01:46,950 --> 00:01:44,079 camera 47 00:01:48,069 --> 00:01:46,960 as well as a laser imaging system 48 00:01:50,469 --> 00:01:48,079 and 49 00:01:53,190 --> 00:01:50,479 the laser imaging system has a pan tilt 50 00:01:55,590 --> 00:01:53,200 system that's used so that we can move 51 00:01:57,270 --> 00:01:55,600 it around and and scan the various areas 52 00:01:59,590 --> 00:01:57,280 that we're looking at 53 00:02:01,990 --> 00:01:59,600 the issue is with that pan tilt system 54 00:02:04,230 --> 00:02:02,000 specifically the tilt 55 00:02:06,630 --> 00:02:04,240 it appears that there is a cable that is 56 00:02:09,510 --> 00:02:06,640 out of configuration 57 00:02:11,190 --> 00:02:09,520 in a way such that it is causing some 58 00:02:12,390 --> 00:02:11,200 interference when we try to tilt that 59 00:02:14,390 --> 00:02:12,400 unit 60 00:02:16,070 --> 00:02:14,400 and so the team worked through this 61 00:02:18,869 --> 00:02:16,080 problem this morning as the crew got 62 00:02:21,910 --> 00:02:18,879 into the uh the inspection procedures 63 00:02:23,910 --> 00:02:21,920 and they very quickly determined that uh 64 00:02:25,510 --> 00:02:23,920 with without going outside there wasn't 65 00:02:27,910 --> 00:02:25,520 going to be any way to 66 00:02:29,990 --> 00:02:27,920 to rectify this problem and so they 67 00:02:33,589 --> 00:02:30,000 downloaded to uh 68 00:02:34,949 --> 00:02:33,599 to using the digital camera to do the uh 69 00:02:37,589 --> 00:02:34,959 the inspections 70 00:02:39,750 --> 00:02:37,599 and that is a procedure that 71 00:02:41,430 --> 00:02:39,760 the crew is trained to do and 72 00:02:42,710 --> 00:02:41,440 it's a published procedure it's part of 73 00:02:44,790 --> 00:02:42,720 the flight rules 74 00:02:46,229 --> 00:02:44,800 that we've documented before the mission 75 00:02:47,350 --> 00:02:46,239 so that in the event we have a problem 76 00:02:49,430 --> 00:02:47,360 with the 77 00:02:51,110 --> 00:02:49,440 laser imaging system 78 00:02:53,509 --> 00:02:51,120 we just go ahead and do the scans using 79 00:02:55,030 --> 00:02:53,519 the digital camera system 80 00:02:57,030 --> 00:02:55,040 part of the 81 00:02:59,430 --> 00:02:57,040 as a result of that part of 82 00:03:01,110 --> 00:02:59,440 the impact will be that we were not able 83 00:03:03,990 --> 00:03:01,120 to get the 84 00:03:06,229 --> 00:03:04,000 the port wing completely scanned today 85 00:03:07,430 --> 00:03:06,239 and so while we normally like to get all 86 00:03:09,670 --> 00:03:07,440 of the 87 00:03:10,949 --> 00:03:09,680 starboard wing the nose cap and the port 88 00:03:12,710 --> 00:03:10,959 wing 89 00:03:14,390 --> 00:03:12,720 areas where the reinforced carbon carbon 90 00:03:15,750 --> 00:03:14,400 is as part of this flight day two 91 00:03:16,710 --> 00:03:15,760 inspection we normally try to get that 92 00:03:19,110 --> 00:03:16,720 all done 93 00:03:21,589 --> 00:03:19,120 we weren't able to complete that so 94 00:03:23,990 --> 00:03:21,599 we will complete 95 00:03:25,670 --> 00:03:24,000 the scans and do inspect complete the 96 00:03:27,509 --> 00:03:25,680 inspection of the port wing 97 00:03:29,430 --> 00:03:27,519 once we get in dot once we get docked to 98 00:03:31,509 --> 00:03:29,440 the international space station 99 00:03:33,990 --> 00:03:31,519 and that will that will be sometime in 100 00:03:35,670 --> 00:03:34,000 the coming days and so the the team is 101 00:03:37,270 --> 00:03:35,680 off working the forward plan for exactly 102 00:03:38,630 --> 00:03:37,280 which systems we want to use to complete 103 00:03:40,630 --> 00:03:38,640 that inspection 104 00:03:41,750 --> 00:03:40,640 and uh and where it'll fit best into the 105 00:03:45,110 --> 00:03:41,760 timeline 106 00:03:47,589 --> 00:03:45,120 and we don't we don't have any issues 107 00:03:49,670 --> 00:03:47,599 with that it'll just be a timeline 108 00:03:51,030 --> 00:03:49,680 impact at this point 109 00:03:52,710 --> 00:03:51,040 the other topic that we talked a little 110 00:03:54,630 --> 00:03:52,720 bit about is and i think you may have 111 00:03:57,429 --> 00:03:54,640 heard that the space station for the 112 00:03:59,190 --> 00:03:57,439 last couple of days has been working 113 00:04:00,869 --> 00:03:59,200 an issue with 114 00:04:01,830 --> 00:04:00,879 debris 115 00:04:02,949 --> 00:04:01,840 as we 116 00:04:03,990 --> 00:04:02,959 always do 117 00:04:08,630 --> 00:04:04,000 we 118 00:04:11,190 --> 00:04:08,640 to be concerned with and that sometimes 119 00:04:12,949 --> 00:04:11,200 we have to do maneuvers 120 00:04:16,150 --> 00:04:12,959 and in this case the space station 121 00:04:18,069 --> 00:04:16,160 program has been looking at an object 122 00:04:20,629 --> 00:04:18,079 that they were alerted to 123 00:04:23,749 --> 00:04:20,639 and so they've got a plan to do a debris 124 00:04:26,710 --> 00:04:23,759 avoidance movement maneuver tonight 125 00:04:29,189 --> 00:04:26,720 the time of closest approach is actually 126 00:04:31,510 --> 00:04:29,199 would be after atlantis shows up 127 00:04:34,790 --> 00:04:31,520 tomorrow and and after we dock 128 00:04:36,790 --> 00:04:34,800 sometime in the hour or hour and a half 129 00:04:39,030 --> 00:04:36,800 after we dock would be the time of 130 00:04:40,230 --> 00:04:39,040 closest approach if they should not do 131 00:04:42,710 --> 00:04:40,240 any kind of 132 00:04:44,390 --> 00:04:42,720 debris avoidance maneuvers so um they've 133 00:04:46,310 --> 00:04:44,400 elected to go ahead and do a maneuver 134 00:04:47,670 --> 00:04:46,320 and uh proactively get us out of the 135 00:04:51,670 --> 00:04:47,680 situation where 136 00:04:54,230 --> 00:04:51,680 um we might be at some risk of of uh 137 00:04:56,790 --> 00:04:54,240 of having uh an object come closer to us 138 00:04:58,550 --> 00:04:56,800 than what we would like so 139 00:05:00,150 --> 00:04:58,560 they have not made a final decision to 140 00:05:01,350 --> 00:05:00,160 do the maneuver they have all the plans 141 00:05:02,950 --> 00:05:01,360 in place 142 00:05:04,310 --> 00:05:02,960 to execute the maneuver if they decide 143 00:05:05,830 --> 00:05:04,320 they need it they'll they'll take a 144 00:05:07,830 --> 00:05:05,840 little bit more time and get 145 00:05:10,390 --> 00:05:07,840 some more vectors and a little bit more 146 00:05:12,710 --> 00:05:10,400 data on the time of closest approach 147 00:05:14,310 --> 00:05:12,720 and the exact 148 00:05:16,310 --> 00:05:14,320 predictions for 149 00:05:17,670 --> 00:05:16,320 for the missed distance and then they'll 150 00:05:19,510 --> 00:05:17,680 compare that to their flight rules and 151 00:05:21,189 --> 00:05:19,520 they'll make a final decision 152 00:05:23,830 --> 00:05:21,199 and if they should do the maneuver it 153 00:05:25,430 --> 00:05:23,840 will be tonight it'll be 154 00:05:27,749 --> 00:05:25,440 sometime between eight and nine pm 155 00:05:29,670 --> 00:05:27,759 central time if they if they decide to 156 00:05:31,670 --> 00:05:29,680 execute the maneuver so 157 00:05:34,710 --> 00:05:31,680 that's not an impact for us 158 00:05:37,590 --> 00:05:34,720 as far as the shuttle is concerned 159 00:05:39,590 --> 00:05:37,600 whatever the resulting state vectors are 160 00:05:41,350 --> 00:05:39,600 between the shuttle and station 161 00:05:43,350 --> 00:05:41,360 we'll determine that 162 00:05:45,670 --> 00:05:43,360 later tonight and in the morning as we 163 00:05:47,909 --> 00:05:45,680 do as part of our ongoing process part 164 00:05:49,909 --> 00:05:47,919 of the ongoing tracking process for both 165 00:05:52,150 --> 00:05:49,919 vehicles as we prepare 166 00:05:52,870 --> 00:05:52,160 for the rendezvous and docking tomorrow 167 00:05:55,029 --> 00:05:52,880 so 168 00:05:57,590 --> 00:05:55,039 really not an issue but just a topic of 169 00:05:59,590 --> 00:05:57,600 discussion and more for awareness for us 170 00:06:02,390 --> 00:05:59,600 on the shuttle side so 171 00:06:04,150 --> 00:06:02,400 other than those two items the 172 00:06:06,469 --> 00:06:04,160 as i said the orbiter is performing 173 00:06:08,629 --> 00:06:06,479 exceedingly well we know from some of 174 00:06:11,189 --> 00:06:08,639 our very preliminary 175 00:06:13,270 --> 00:06:11,199 um assessment of the 176 00:06:14,710 --> 00:06:13,280 of the of the other flight elements to 177 00:06:15,749 --> 00:06:14,720 include the tank and the solid rocket 178 00:06:17,990 --> 00:06:15,759 boosters 179 00:06:19,590 --> 00:06:18,000 uh and the shuttle main engines um the 180 00:06:21,350 --> 00:06:19,600 space shuttle main engines we know that 181 00:06:23,110 --> 00:06:21,360 the performance of all the propulsion 182 00:06:25,749 --> 00:06:23,120 elements looks very good 183 00:06:27,670 --> 00:06:25,759 um and so we'll obviously look more at 184 00:06:29,830 --> 00:06:27,680 that as we go through the mission and in 185 00:06:31,830 --> 00:06:29,840 post flight but preliminarily it looks 186 00:06:34,550 --> 00:06:31,840 like the performance overall 187 00:06:35,990 --> 00:06:34,560 of the entire sts vehicle was uh was 188 00:06:38,390 --> 00:06:36,000 very very good so 189 00:06:40,230 --> 00:06:38,400 we're again glad to be here on orbit and 190 00:06:41,990 --> 00:06:40,240 and looking forward to to getting docked 191 00:06:44,309 --> 00:06:42,000 with space station tomorrow and getting 192 00:06:46,870 --> 00:06:44,319 on with the work of this mission 193 00:06:47,990 --> 00:06:46,880 and i'd be happy to take any questions 194 00:06:49,189 --> 00:06:48,000 thank you leroy we'll start with 195 00:06:51,749 --> 00:06:49,199 questions here at the johnson space 196 00:06:53,350 --> 00:06:51,759 center go ahead oh thank you mark caro 197 00:06:54,469 --> 00:06:53,360 for aviation week 198 00:06:57,189 --> 00:06:54,479 um 199 00:06:59,189 --> 00:06:57,199 i want to sort of understand i 200 00:07:00,790 --> 00:06:59,199 think i do what you said about forward 201 00:07:03,510 --> 00:07:00,800 inspection of the left wing will you 202 00:07:05,430 --> 00:07:03,520 actually use the boom sensor system 203 00:07:08,150 --> 00:07:05,440 after they've docked to look at the wing 204 00:07:11,189 --> 00:07:08,160 or some other technique 205 00:07:13,589 --> 00:07:11,199 we won't use the boom sensor system 206 00:07:15,270 --> 00:07:13,599 the there are several options 207 00:07:17,350 --> 00:07:15,280 to include that 208 00:07:19,270 --> 00:07:17,360 but what we really 209 00:07:20,629 --> 00:07:19,280 in this case can do since it's the port 210 00:07:22,550 --> 00:07:20,639 wing is we can 211 00:07:23,430 --> 00:07:22,560 we can do the inspection and complete it 212 00:07:25,830 --> 00:07:23,440 with 213 00:07:28,230 --> 00:07:25,840 by simply using the shuttle arm 214 00:07:29,510 --> 00:07:28,240 the srms shuttle robotic maneuvering 215 00:07:31,589 --> 00:07:29,520 system 216 00:07:33,990 --> 00:07:31,599 and the end effector camera that it that 217 00:07:36,950 --> 00:07:34,000 is already on the shuttle arm 218 00:07:39,670 --> 00:07:36,960 we know from from previous experience 219 00:07:40,950 --> 00:07:39,680 and from looking at these 220 00:07:42,790 --> 00:07:40,960 particular 221 00:07:46,390 --> 00:07:42,800 scenarios before 222 00:07:48,629 --> 00:07:46,400 that we can get adequate scans and 223 00:07:51,189 --> 00:07:48,639 imagery 224 00:07:53,270 --> 00:07:51,199 of that entire portion of the of the 225 00:07:55,270 --> 00:07:53,280 port wing since it's on the same side as 226 00:07:56,869 --> 00:07:55,280 the the shuttle robotic arm 227 00:07:59,830 --> 00:07:56,879 just using that arm and the end effector 228 00:08:02,469 --> 00:07:59,840 camera so it's really a good bit simpler 229 00:08:03,830 --> 00:08:02,479 in terms of uh logistically being able 230 00:08:05,830 --> 00:08:03,840 to do the inspection so that's that's 231 00:08:08,070 --> 00:08:05,840 one of the options it's probably the 232 00:08:11,029 --> 00:08:08,080 premier or the leading option that we're 233 00:08:13,110 --> 00:08:11,039 we'll be looking at going forward 234 00:08:14,230 --> 00:08:13,120 and i had a second question regarding 235 00:08:15,270 --> 00:08:14,240 the object 236 00:08:17,029 --> 00:08:15,280 um 237 00:08:19,350 --> 00:08:17,039 it seems like it's 238 00:08:21,589 --> 00:08:19,360 there's been a lot of 239 00:08:23,909 --> 00:08:21,599 you've used a lot of time to sort of 240 00:08:26,550 --> 00:08:23,919 assess this object in its 241 00:08:28,230 --> 00:08:26,560 motion and the proximity and i wonder if 242 00:08:29,110 --> 00:08:28,240 you could sort of explain 243 00:08:31,350 --> 00:08:29,120 um 244 00:08:33,190 --> 00:08:31,360 yeah i'm not trying to say you didn't 245 00:08:35,110 --> 00:08:33,200 didn't side fast enough i'm just trying 246 00:08:37,509 --> 00:08:35,120 to sort of explain why it takes this 247 00:08:38,949 --> 00:08:37,519 long in this case to really make a 248 00:08:40,949 --> 00:08:38,959 decision as to whether you need to 249 00:08:43,829 --> 00:08:40,959 maneuver or not 250 00:08:45,829 --> 00:08:43,839 well in my experience every uh every 251 00:08:48,389 --> 00:08:45,839 degree of warden's case is a little bit 252 00:08:50,550 --> 00:08:48,399 different these uh in some cases these 253 00:08:52,550 --> 00:08:50,560 are objects that 254 00:08:54,230 --> 00:08:52,560 spend a good bit of their time in low 255 00:08:56,230 --> 00:08:54,240 earth orbit that is to say they're 256 00:08:57,590 --> 00:08:56,240 they're also in circular or more or less 257 00:08:59,750 --> 00:08:57,600 circular orbits 258 00:09:02,550 --> 00:08:59,760 in other cases they're highly elliptical 259 00:09:04,949 --> 00:09:02,560 or somewhat or mostly elliptical 260 00:09:06,790 --> 00:09:04,959 um you know you know there's a wide 261 00:09:08,470 --> 00:09:06,800 range of 262 00:09:09,670 --> 00:09:08,480 of scenarios 263 00:09:11,670 --> 00:09:09,680 and so 264 00:09:14,070 --> 00:09:11,680 the tracking and the consistency of the 265 00:09:17,990 --> 00:09:14,080 tracking of the objects 266 00:09:20,070 --> 00:09:18,000 when you begin to to try to compare 267 00:09:21,030 --> 00:09:20,080 the state vectors or the position in 268 00:09:22,949 --> 00:09:21,040 space 269 00:09:25,430 --> 00:09:22,959 between the objects of concern in this 270 00:09:26,550 --> 00:09:25,440 case this piece of debris being one of 271 00:09:29,430 --> 00:09:26,560 the objects 272 00:09:31,509 --> 00:09:29,440 and and the space station 273 00:09:33,910 --> 00:09:31,519 being the other object when you when you 274 00:09:34,829 --> 00:09:33,920 start to compare 275 00:09:43,910 --> 00:09:34,839 the 276 00:09:46,150 --> 00:09:43,920 be and that kind of thing 277 00:09:48,389 --> 00:09:46,160 there are perturbations to that 278 00:09:52,070 --> 00:09:48,399 um those perturbations 279 00:09:52,949 --> 00:09:52,080 also vary widely as a function of 280 00:09:55,190 --> 00:09:52,959 um 281 00:09:56,310 --> 00:09:55,200 the geometry of the object the mass of 282 00:09:58,949 --> 00:09:56,320 the object 283 00:10:00,870 --> 00:09:58,959 and and what kind of orbit it's in 284 00:10:03,110 --> 00:10:00,880 so 285 00:10:05,190 --> 00:10:03,120 there are no two debris avoidance cases 286 00:10:07,910 --> 00:10:05,200 that that really are very much alike 287 00:10:10,069 --> 00:10:07,920 except that we track the objects we 288 00:10:11,509 --> 00:10:10,079 track them for as long as we can and get 289 00:10:14,230 --> 00:10:11,519 as much data 290 00:10:16,069 --> 00:10:14,240 as we can and make a decision 291 00:10:17,750 --> 00:10:16,079 as late as we can 292 00:10:18,949 --> 00:10:17,760 safely 293 00:10:21,110 --> 00:10:18,959 as to whether or not we need to move 294 00:10:23,269 --> 00:10:21,120 maneuver out of the way or not and i say 295 00:10:26,310 --> 00:10:23,279 we track the objects 296 00:10:28,949 --> 00:10:26,320 we nasa don't track the objects we are 297 00:10:31,590 --> 00:10:28,959 made aware of objects 298 00:10:33,990 --> 00:10:31,600 as they are tracked by other 299 00:10:35,670 --> 00:10:34,000 by other entities so 300 00:10:37,350 --> 00:10:35,680 that's kind of how the process works in 301 00:10:39,350 --> 00:10:37,360 this case 302 00:10:41,670 --> 00:10:39,360 there are enough variables with this 303 00:10:43,750 --> 00:10:41,680 object apparently 304 00:10:44,870 --> 00:10:43,760 that make it a little bit more difficult 305 00:10:49,829 --> 00:10:44,880 to 306 00:10:53,269 --> 00:10:49,839 it's also possible that since it's not 307 00:10:54,630 --> 00:10:53,279 easy to maneuver the space station um 308 00:10:56,550 --> 00:10:54,640 it's not easy 309 00:10:57,990 --> 00:10:56,560 in terms of being able to make the 310 00:11:01,350 --> 00:10:58,000 decision because of what it costs you to 311 00:11:03,030 --> 00:11:01,360 do it potentially 312 00:11:03,990 --> 00:11:03,040 you want to take as much time as you can 313 00:11:06,870 --> 00:11:04,000 and you want to make sure that you 314 00:11:09,590 --> 00:11:06,880 really need to maneuver before you do 315 00:11:12,150 --> 00:11:09,600 so there are a lot of factors mark and 316 00:11:13,590 --> 00:11:12,160 i couldn't say for sure in this case 317 00:11:18,230 --> 00:11:13,600 which one of those factors would be 318 00:11:21,269 --> 00:11:19,110 question 319 00:11:24,069 --> 00:11:21,279 phillips loss with nasa spaceflight.com 320 00:11:25,990 --> 00:11:24,079 uh first question is uh what's what's 321 00:11:29,509 --> 00:11:26,000 your decision time for the for the 322 00:11:31,750 --> 00:11:29,519 debris avoidance maneuver tonight 323 00:11:33,430 --> 00:11:31,760 the decision time is really in this case 324 00:11:35,190 --> 00:11:33,440 since the shuttle is coming 325 00:11:37,670 --> 00:11:35,200 to station 326 00:11:40,310 --> 00:11:37,680 we don't want to perturb the rendezvous 327 00:11:43,030 --> 00:11:40,320 profile any more than is necessary 328 00:11:44,470 --> 00:11:43,040 so we have what's called an nh burn 329 00:11:46,630 --> 00:11:44,480 that's a big burn 330 00:11:48,389 --> 00:11:46,640 uh big in terms of the importance of it 331 00:11:49,509 --> 00:11:48,399 relative to the the success of the 332 00:11:51,110 --> 00:11:49,519 rendezvous 333 00:11:52,710 --> 00:11:51,120 and that burn right now is scheduled for 334 00:11:54,069 --> 00:11:52,720 about four o'clock in the morning local 335 00:11:58,310 --> 00:11:54,079 time tomorrow 336 00:12:00,790 --> 00:11:58,320 our flight rules say that we want to 337 00:12:03,030 --> 00:12:00,800 um if necessary 338 00:12:04,870 --> 00:12:03,040 station should should do a maneuver no 339 00:12:05,990 --> 00:12:04,880 later than eight hours prior to that 340 00:12:07,990 --> 00:12:06,000 burn 341 00:12:10,710 --> 00:12:08,000 that eight hours is based on the amount 342 00:12:13,110 --> 00:12:10,720 of time it takes for the flight dynamics 343 00:12:15,110 --> 00:12:13,120 officers to track out 344 00:12:16,550 --> 00:12:15,120 any differences or changes in the state 345 00:12:18,470 --> 00:12:16,560 vector between the shuttle and the space 346 00:12:20,790 --> 00:12:18,480 station so that we can we can 347 00:12:22,550 --> 00:12:20,800 successfully set up the 348 00:12:25,590 --> 00:12:22,560 maneuvers and the burns that are 349 00:12:26,470 --> 00:12:25,600 required for us to catch up to station 350 00:12:30,150 --> 00:12:26,480 and 351 00:12:31,030 --> 00:12:30,160 do 352 00:12:33,190 --> 00:12:31,040 so 353 00:12:35,269 --> 00:12:33,200 if you back up that time frame 354 00:12:36,949 --> 00:12:35,279 that gets you to about 8 pm 355 00:12:39,509 --> 00:12:36,959 local time tonight 356 00:12:41,110 --> 00:12:39,519 however that's just the time to actually 357 00:12:43,110 --> 00:12:41,120 execute the burn 358 00:12:44,710 --> 00:12:43,120 in order for station 359 00:12:46,550 --> 00:12:44,720 to execute a burn there's a number of 360 00:12:47,350 --> 00:12:46,560 configuration changes that they need to 361 00:12:49,030 --> 00:12:47,360 make 362 00:12:50,629 --> 00:12:49,040 things like 363 00:12:52,470 --> 00:12:50,639 feathering the solar arrays and 364 00:12:53,430 --> 00:12:52,480 different systems configurations that 365 00:12:58,389 --> 00:12:53,440 they'll 366 00:13:00,870 --> 00:12:58,399 a burn so if they're going to do a burn 367 00:13:02,710 --> 00:13:00,880 no later than 8 pm tonight they really 368 00:13:04,550 --> 00:13:02,720 need to make a decision about two or 369 00:13:08,150 --> 00:13:04,560 three hours before that or about two 370 00:13:11,030 --> 00:13:08,160 revs if you will before that so decision 371 00:13:13,590 --> 00:13:11,040 time for the burn last decision time is 372 00:13:15,509 --> 00:13:13,600 uh is really about 5 p.m 373 00:13:17,350 --> 00:13:15,519 tonight so in in less than a couple 374 00:13:20,550 --> 00:13:17,360 hours here we'll know whether or not 375 00:13:22,949 --> 00:13:20,560 they're going to do the maneuver 376 00:13:24,629 --> 00:13:22,959 thanks i actually answered one of my 377 00:13:27,509 --> 00:13:24,639 rendezvous questions for tomorrow is 378 00:13:28,550 --> 00:13:27,519 whether you're doing nh and nc4 379 00:13:31,190 --> 00:13:28,560 um 380 00:13:32,829 --> 00:13:31,200 on the uh again on the 381 00:13:35,670 --> 00:13:32,839 possible conjunction 382 00:13:38,150 --> 00:13:35,680 is how has the 383 00:13:40,310 --> 00:13:38,160 categorization of this object 384 00:13:41,670 --> 00:13:40,320 is it i mean i've heard it classified as 385 00:13:43,910 --> 00:13:41,680 yellow or red 386 00:13:45,829 --> 00:13:43,920 in some cases is that is that where you 387 00:13:47,350 --> 00:13:45,839 are right now is there any trend you 388 00:13:50,150 --> 00:13:47,360 know 389 00:13:51,509 --> 00:13:50,160 getting farther away from the from your 390 00:13:55,990 --> 00:13:51,519 box 391 00:13:58,949 --> 00:13:57,189 i would say 392 00:14:01,350 --> 00:13:58,959 based on the latest information that i 393 00:14:05,030 --> 00:14:01,360 have as of a couple hours ago it's 394 00:14:05,990 --> 00:14:05,040 trending in the direction of goodness 395 00:14:10,230 --> 00:14:06,000 when 396 00:14:12,710 --> 00:14:10,240 and we first started talking about it 397 00:14:13,590 --> 00:14:12,720 before we launched on friday on thursday 398 00:14:16,870 --> 00:14:13,600 evening 399 00:14:21,910 --> 00:14:16,880 we were in the in the yellow to red 400 00:14:25,430 --> 00:14:23,990 the the missed distance 401 00:14:27,189 --> 00:14:25,440 and the criteria that we use in the 402 00:14:29,590 --> 00:14:27,199 flight rules to be able to determine if 403 00:14:30,949 --> 00:14:29,600 we have to do a maneuver or not 404 00:14:33,269 --> 00:14:30,959 since that time 405 00:14:35,509 --> 00:14:33,279 it apparently we've moved more in the 406 00:14:38,230 --> 00:14:35,519 yellow to green range 407 00:14:41,030 --> 00:14:38,240 i think if you had to say today 408 00:14:42,710 --> 00:14:41,040 based on where we are 409 00:14:45,110 --> 00:14:42,720 i believe that 410 00:14:46,949 --> 00:14:45,120 that station alone 411 00:14:48,710 --> 00:14:46,959 not to include the plan for the shuttle 412 00:14:51,430 --> 00:14:48,720 to come and dock if we weren't coming to 413 00:14:53,269 --> 00:14:51,440 dock i think they would be closer to be 414 00:14:55,189 --> 00:14:53,279 in green that is to say the missed 415 00:14:57,350 --> 00:14:55,199 distance would be great enough 416 00:14:59,269 --> 00:14:57,360 but we changed the vector and the 417 00:15:02,310 --> 00:14:59,279 position and the orientation 418 00:15:05,189 --> 00:15:02,320 um and the missed distance just by by 419 00:15:07,910 --> 00:15:05,199 virtue of the physical act of docking 420 00:15:09,829 --> 00:15:07,920 with the space station and in so doing 421 00:15:12,629 --> 00:15:09,839 um it moves us into the yellow region i 422 00:15:14,550 --> 00:15:12,639 believe so it's close enough that it's 423 00:15:15,509 --> 00:15:14,560 somewhere in the yellow moving toward 424 00:15:17,189 --> 00:15:15,519 green 425 00:15:19,030 --> 00:15:17,199 and as i said they'll they'll make a 426 00:15:23,030 --> 00:15:19,040 decision based on all of the data that's 427 00:15:26,150 --> 00:15:24,870 any more questions here 428 00:16:08,949 --> 00:15:26,160 i 429 00:16:11,030 --> 00:16:08,959 further up than 430 00:16:12,389 --> 00:16:11,040 until where it hits this cable it's not 431 00:16:14,470 --> 00:16:12,399 the cable is in a position it's not 432 00:16:17,110 --> 00:16:14,480 supposed to be in 433 00:16:20,069 --> 00:16:17,120 and it's not allowing the the the unit 434 00:16:22,710 --> 00:16:20,079 to tilt up in the up in the up direction 435 00:16:24,870 --> 00:16:22,720 we can tilt full down but we can't tilt 436 00:16:27,910 --> 00:16:24,880 past a certain angle and it's because 437 00:16:29,189 --> 00:16:27,920 this cable is is uh is binding 438 00:16:30,150 --> 00:16:29,199 um 439 00:16:31,910 --> 00:16:30,160 so 440 00:16:33,670 --> 00:16:31,920 it's it's basically in a position it's 441 00:16:36,949 --> 00:16:33,680 not supposed to be in 442 00:16:38,629 --> 00:16:36,959 and wasn't intended to be in 443 00:16:41,829 --> 00:16:38,639 in terms of the function of the of the 444 00:16:45,910 --> 00:16:43,990 is that it hit for now okay we'll take 445 00:16:48,829 --> 00:16:45,920 some questions from the folks on the 446 00:16:52,710 --> 00:16:48,839 line first up is robert perlman 447 00:16:54,150 --> 00:16:52,720 please hi can you hear me yes 448 00:16:56,310 --> 00:16:54,160 claire 449 00:16:58,230 --> 00:16:56,320 go ahead um okay uh 450 00:17:00,069 --> 00:16:58,240 just um two quick robert perlman with 451 00:17:02,790 --> 00:17:00,079 collectspace.com with just two status 452 00:17:05,270 --> 00:17:02,800 questions um if you know the the status 453 00:17:06,870 --> 00:17:05,280 of srb recovery and 454 00:17:09,510 --> 00:17:06,880 also the 455 00:17:13,350 --> 00:17:09,520 status of the pad after launch if it 456 00:17:17,669 --> 00:17:15,990 let's see i don't have a launch pad 457 00:17:19,990 --> 00:17:17,679 status 458 00:17:22,069 --> 00:17:20,000 which is actually a good thing because 459 00:17:23,750 --> 00:17:22,079 if we had had any significant damage i 460 00:17:24,630 --> 00:17:23,760 would be able to tell you that because i 461 00:17:31,510 --> 00:17:24,640 would 462 00:17:33,430 --> 00:17:31,520 no news on the pad is good news and and 463 00:17:35,669 --> 00:17:33,440 of course in a couple of days we'll have 464 00:17:38,870 --> 00:17:35,679 some details on the launch pad 465 00:17:41,350 --> 00:17:38,880 as far as the srb and recovery um 466 00:17:43,029 --> 00:17:41,360 the everything is gone nominal so far 467 00:17:45,270 --> 00:17:43,039 whether ships are concerned and in terms 468 00:17:47,510 --> 00:17:45,280 of having the boosters in tow 469 00:17:49,190 --> 00:17:47,520 the plan is to do slip operations on 470 00:17:51,510 --> 00:17:49,200 monday 471 00:17:55,590 --> 00:17:51,520 and open assessment for the solid rocket 472 00:18:01,430 --> 00:17:58,390 next on the line is marcia dunn please 473 00:18:03,750 --> 00:18:01,440 yes hi um if you determine that a 474 00:18:05,750 --> 00:18:03,760 station maneuver is needed would that be 475 00:18:10,390 --> 00:18:05,760 done by russian flight controllers or 476 00:18:17,430 --> 00:18:14,549 um i'm not sure marcia the the station 477 00:18:19,830 --> 00:18:17,440 ops team would would handle that between 478 00:18:21,750 --> 00:18:19,840 uh here in houston and in the houston 479 00:18:24,630 --> 00:18:21,760 support group in moscow 480 00:18:28,390 --> 00:18:24,640 and and the russian uh controllers 481 00:18:30,390 --> 00:18:28,400 the uh as you may know in this case the 482 00:18:32,870 --> 00:18:30,400 station maneuver will be done using the 483 00:18:33,909 --> 00:18:32,880 thrusters that are on the progress 484 00:18:36,710 --> 00:18:33,919 module 485 00:18:38,470 --> 00:18:36,720 so i imagine as in the case with most of 486 00:18:39,830 --> 00:18:38,480 the station operations it'll be a joint 487 00:18:42,150 --> 00:18:39,840 effort 488 00:18:44,390 --> 00:18:42,160 and i'm wondering if have you ever had 489 00:18:47,110 --> 00:18:44,400 to steer the station out of the way 490 00:18:48,870 --> 00:18:47,120 uh once the shuttle's been launched 491 00:18:49,990 --> 00:18:48,880 i know that i think a year and a half 492 00:18:51,669 --> 00:18:50,000 ago 493 00:18:53,029 --> 00:18:51,679 one such maneuver was called off but i 494 00:18:55,190 --> 00:18:53,039 can't recall 495 00:18:58,310 --> 00:18:55,200 ever having to move the station like 496 00:19:00,070 --> 00:18:58,320 this with a shuttle on the way 497 00:19:02,549 --> 00:19:00,080 my memory is about the same as yours i 498 00:19:05,270 --> 00:19:02,559 would say um in that i know we've 499 00:19:07,350 --> 00:19:05,280 discussed the maneuvers before 500 00:19:09,669 --> 00:19:07,360 after launch and before docking 501 00:19:11,430 --> 00:19:09,679 i don't recall that we've ever actually 502 00:19:13,110 --> 00:19:11,440 executed one 503 00:19:14,549 --> 00:19:13,120 but i have to go back and look marcia i 504 00:19:15,909 --> 00:19:14,559 just don't remember 505 00:19:18,549 --> 00:19:15,919 and lastly 506 00:19:20,870 --> 00:19:18,559 any more news on the number of 507 00:19:22,549 --> 00:19:20,880 pieces of debris seen coming off the 508 00:19:25,590 --> 00:19:22,559 tank during liftoff i think we heard 509 00:19:27,750 --> 00:19:25,600 about a couple yesterday 510 00:19:30,710 --> 00:19:27,760 and i don't have any updates from that 511 00:19:33,029 --> 00:19:30,720 um we're a little bit early and 512 00:19:34,070 --> 00:19:33,039 i do know that um 513 00:19:38,470 --> 00:19:34,080 the 514 00:19:40,950 --> 00:19:38,480 ascent video 515 00:19:42,710 --> 00:19:40,960 the external tank performance looked 516 00:19:45,669 --> 00:19:42,720 looked very very good 517 00:19:48,710 --> 00:19:45,679 and as did the other propulsion elements 518 00:19:49,750 --> 00:19:48,720 but we did see a few a few 519 00:19:52,950 --> 00:19:49,760 debris 520 00:19:54,950 --> 00:19:52,960 items and then we saw a little bit 521 00:19:57,190 --> 00:19:54,960 of 522 00:19:59,190 --> 00:19:57,200 places where we lost some foam 523 00:20:01,190 --> 00:19:59,200 in the external tank video imagery but 524 00:20:02,710 --> 00:20:01,200 that's all very preliminary so i don't 525 00:20:04,149 --> 00:20:02,720 have an update from what you heard 526 00:20:07,510 --> 00:20:04,159 yesterday marcia but we'll have it in a 527 00:20:11,909 --> 00:20:07,520 couple of days probably thanks a lot 528 00:20:15,990 --> 00:20:14,390 uh thanks todd halberson of florida 529 00:20:18,070 --> 00:20:16,000 today um 530 00:20:19,909 --> 00:20:18,080 we were i was wondering mike sheriff and 531 00:20:22,390 --> 00:20:19,919 i didn't have any information on the 532 00:20:24,230 --> 00:20:22,400 shape size or origin 533 00:20:26,630 --> 00:20:24,240 of this piece of debris and i just 534 00:20:30,710 --> 00:20:26,640 wanted to check and see whether you had 535 00:20:35,190 --> 00:20:33,590 uh no i don't i don't have details on 536 00:20:36,310 --> 00:20:35,200 the object 537 00:20:38,950 --> 00:20:36,320 okay 538 00:20:41,669 --> 00:20:38,960 and um 539 00:20:44,470 --> 00:20:41,679 i assume but i just want to confirm that 540 00:20:49,510 --> 00:20:44,480 once a decision is made would that be uh 541 00:20:54,710 --> 00:20:53,190 well the uh if the crew is still up yeah 542 00:20:55,830 --> 00:20:54,720 we'll we'll tell them what we're doing 543 00:20:57,510 --> 00:20:55,840 obviously 544 00:20:59,990 --> 00:20:57,520 um the station crew 545 00:21:01,270 --> 00:21:00,000 certainly will know but the shuttle crew 546 00:21:02,470 --> 00:21:01,280 um 547 00:21:03,909 --> 00:21:02,480 it's uh 548 00:21:05,990 --> 00:21:03,919 it's possible that they'll be in their 549 00:21:07,510 --> 00:21:06,000 pre-sleep period so the team may or may 550 00:21:09,510 --> 00:21:07,520 not call it up to them 551 00:21:11,590 --> 00:21:09,520 in any case uh before they start their 552 00:21:13,110 --> 00:21:11,600 rendezvous operations in the morning 553 00:21:14,230 --> 00:21:13,120 they'll know whether or not station did 554 00:21:16,230 --> 00:21:14,240 a maneuver 555 00:21:17,909 --> 00:21:16,240 it really is transparent to the shuttle 556 00:21:19,590 --> 00:21:17,919 crew 557 00:21:22,950 --> 00:21:19,600 they're going to perform the burns and 558 00:21:25,590 --> 00:21:22,960 the maneuvers uh per the procedures and 559 00:21:27,190 --> 00:21:25,600 and per the advisory data that they get 560 00:21:29,110 --> 00:21:27,200 uplinked from the mission control here 561 00:21:31,669 --> 00:21:29,120 in houston 562 00:21:33,029 --> 00:21:31,679 so it it really will be situational 563 00:21:35,990 --> 00:21:33,039 awareness for them 564 00:21:37,110 --> 00:21:36,000 um not something they necessarily 565 00:21:38,630 --> 00:21:37,120 need to be aware of it's not going to 566 00:21:40,710 --> 00:21:38,640 change anything they do it'll change 567 00:21:43,430 --> 00:21:40,720 what happens on the ground in terms of 568 00:21:45,430 --> 00:21:43,440 the tracking and and building the uh 569 00:21:47,430 --> 00:21:45,440 the advisory data for the burns and the 570 00:21:50,390 --> 00:21:47,440 maneuvers but we'll tell them if if uh 571 00:21:52,070 --> 00:21:50,400 if they're not already sleeping 572 00:21:55,669 --> 00:21:52,080 yeah i guess these next two are for 573 00:21:56,830 --> 00:21:55,679 kylie if um the crew is asleep will um 574 00:21:59,909 --> 00:21:56,840 your 575 00:22:01,909 --> 00:21:59,919 commentator uh fill us in on a decision 576 00:22:03,510 --> 00:22:01,919 when it's made yes 577 00:22:06,789 --> 00:22:03,520 that's the plan 578 00:22:07,909 --> 00:22:06,799 okay and then i was just curious if 579 00:22:09,510 --> 00:22:07,919 they 580 00:22:10,549 --> 00:22:09,520 decide to do a maneuver and do a 581 00:22:13,909 --> 00:22:10,559 maneuver 582 00:22:14,950 --> 00:22:13,919 i'm assuming that that would um change 583 00:22:17,110 --> 00:22:14,960 uh 584 00:22:20,470 --> 00:22:17,120 the citing opportunities that you have 585 00:22:22,950 --> 00:22:20,480 left listed on your website um 586 00:22:24,950 --> 00:22:22,960 for various passes over 587 00:22:27,350 --> 00:22:24,960 billions of cities in the 588 00:22:29,909 --> 00:22:27,360 us and elsewhere and i'm i'm wondering 589 00:22:32,789 --> 00:22:29,919 if that is the case how soon 590 00:22:35,110 --> 00:22:32,799 uh those siding opportunities uh would 591 00:22:37,430 --> 00:22:35,120 be updated after 592 00:22:38,870 --> 00:22:37,440 a maneuver 593 00:22:41,830 --> 00:22:38,880 we'll have to take a look at that with 594 00:22:43,350 --> 00:22:41,840 the maneuver about 8 pm central time 595 00:22:45,029 --> 00:22:43,360 that's about around the time a lot of 596 00:22:46,789 --> 00:22:45,039 the sightings were this evening for the 597 00:22:48,470 --> 00:22:46,799 u.s cities if i remember correctly but 598 00:22:50,070 --> 00:22:48,480 we'll look at that and see if that can 599 00:22:51,909 --> 00:22:50,080 be updated 600 00:22:53,510 --> 00:22:51,919 and i was thinking about the 601 00:22:54,549 --> 00:22:53,520 you know rest of the mission too there 602 00:22:56,710 --> 00:22:54,559 are 603 00:22:58,710 --> 00:22:56,720 many passes i think about eight down 604 00:23:01,270 --> 00:22:58,720 here at the cape and i know people are 605 00:23:03,669 --> 00:23:01,280 going to want to go outside and watch if 606 00:23:04,710 --> 00:23:03,679 they can uh so 607 00:23:06,390 --> 00:23:04,720 um 608 00:23:10,149 --> 00:23:06,400 we'll be looking for an update anyway 609 00:23:15,110 --> 00:23:13,270 okay next on the line is bill harwood 610 00:23:17,270 --> 00:23:15,120 yeah hi bill howard with cbs news leroy 611 00:23:20,549 --> 00:23:17,280 on the on the port wing if you did it 612 00:23:22,630 --> 00:23:20,559 with the end effector camera on the srms 613 00:23:23,750 --> 00:23:22,640 i mean don't you lose something from not 614 00:23:25,750 --> 00:23:23,760 using the 615 00:23:27,669 --> 00:23:25,760 the normal sensor suite i mean what is 616 00:23:30,950 --> 00:23:27,679 how is that okay i guess is what i'm i'm 617 00:23:33,990 --> 00:23:32,390 yeah bill this is something that we've 618 00:23:35,990 --> 00:23:34,000 looked at uh going all the way back to 619 00:23:38,710 --> 00:23:36,000 return to flight and 620 00:23:40,789 --> 00:23:38,720 we are able to get 621 00:23:44,230 --> 00:23:40,799 with a great enough fidelity 622 00:23:46,070 --> 00:23:44,240 on the port wing using that system 623 00:23:47,669 --> 00:23:46,080 the what we need to see in the scans 624 00:23:49,750 --> 00:23:47,679 that we do of the of the leading edge 625 00:23:51,909 --> 00:23:49,760 and the upper surfaces 626 00:23:52,630 --> 00:23:51,919 just behind the reinforced carbon carbon 627 00:23:54,310 --> 00:23:52,640 so 628 00:23:55,029 --> 00:23:54,320 there's no issue with that in terms of 629 00:23:57,830 --> 00:23:55,039 our 630 00:23:59,269 --> 00:23:57,840 uh minimum criteria and and the fidelity 631 00:24:00,470 --> 00:23:59,279 of being able to look 632 00:24:03,510 --> 00:24:00,480 um 633 00:24:05,830 --> 00:24:03,520 for our safe entry criteria if you will 634 00:24:08,230 --> 00:24:05,840 in addition to that i should say we are 635 00:24:09,990 --> 00:24:08,240 looking at the possibility of 636 00:24:11,590 --> 00:24:10,000 getting some uh 637 00:24:12,549 --> 00:24:11,600 higher resolution 638 00:24:14,789 --> 00:24:12,559 um 639 00:24:17,190 --> 00:24:14,799 pictures from from some of the cameras 640 00:24:19,110 --> 00:24:17,200 on station when we do our our normal rpm 641 00:24:20,789 --> 00:24:19,120 maneuver 642 00:24:22,950 --> 00:24:20,799 and so that will just be 643 00:24:25,190 --> 00:24:22,960 icing on the cake if if we can get that 644 00:24:26,789 --> 00:24:25,200 will just be some additional data for us 645 00:24:33,110 --> 00:24:26,799 and we are looking at the possibility of 646 00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:38,149 do you have another question bill 647 00:24:38,159 --> 00:24:41,990 okay any follow-ups here 648 00:24:45,669 --> 00:24:43,669 seeing none we'll go ahead and go back 649 00:24:47,510 --> 00:24:45,679 to mission control so we can stay tuned 650 00:24:49,350 --> 00:24:47,520 to the news this evening as the crew 651 00:24:52,070 --> 00:24:49,360 wraps up the work onboard the space 652 00:24:54,789 --> 00:24:52,080 shuttle and you can also keep updated on